The South African Rock Encyclopedia > Family Trees > Freedoms Children
LEEMEN LIMITED (1963-1966) formed in Durban THE BEATHOVENS (1965) originally The Stilettos
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JOHN H RICHARD "DOC" KENNY JIMMY BRIAN RAMSAY GARY ANGELO others
STONE LEE WATSON HENSON THOMPSON ALDERSON MacKAY DEMMER GIAI-MINIETTI
bass vocals drums guitar keyboards keyboards bass guitar guitar
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| | +-----> ABSTRACT TRUTH (1971) +-----------+--------+
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+-------------------)---------+ LEHMAN LTD (October 1965) formed in Pretoria
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| | NIC COLIN RAMSAY MICK GARY ANGELO
| | MARTENS PRATLEY MACKAY JADE DEMMER GIAI-MINIETTI
| | keyboards drums bass vocals guitar guitar,
| | | | | | mouth harp
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NEVADAS | | THE NAVARONES (1965) after Colin | |
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JULIAN OTHERS | | NIC COLIN JOHNNY DAVE BRIAN | |
LAXTON | | MARTENS PRATLEY PATTERSON PATTERSON BRENTON | |
guitars | | keyboards drums vocals bass drums | |
| | | | | via SEVEN FACES | |
| | +------+---------+------------------------------------------------------------------------+----------+
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THEM | FREEDOMS CHILDREN (1966) "Freedom Sweet" was also suggested. Recorded as "Fleadom's Children" to avoid complications!
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JULIAN IVOR OTHERS| KENNY RAMSAY NIC COLIN MICK
LAXTON BACK | HENSON MacKAY MARTENS PRATLEY JADE
guitars drums | guitar bass keyboards drums vocals
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| V +---------+---------+---------)---------+
| HAWK | +------------------+
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MEL, MEL & JULIAN (1965-1967) FREEDOMS CHILDREN (1966) | THE GONKS (1965)
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MEL JULIAN MEL KENNY RAMSAY JIMMY COLIN | CRAIG BARRY HOWARD MERVYN PETER
GREEN LAXTON MILLER HENSON MacKAY THOMPSON PRATLEY | ROSS CLINE SCHACHAT GERSHANOV GILDER
vocals, guitar vocals guitar bass keyboards drums | vocals bass guitar guitar drums
guitar | | | | | | |
+--------)-----------+---------+-------------------+--------)--------+
| | +-----+
V FREEDOMS CHILDREN (1967) |
comedian -------------------------------------- |
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KENNY RAMSAY JULIAN COLIN CRAIG | Via Noel McDermott's Band (1966)
HENSON MacKAY LAXTON PRATLEY ROSS | and John E Sharpe's Blues Band (1967)
guitar bass guitar drums keyboards |
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| +---------+--------+ +-------)----> THE THIRD EYE
+-----------------+ | |
| +---------------)----------------------------------+
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| | FREEDOMS CHILDREN (1968)
| | ------------------------------- - - - - -
| | | | | | | Harry Poulos played
| | JULIAN RAMSAY COLIN HARRY MIKE in Four Jacks and a Jill
| | LAXTON MacKAY PRATLEY POULOS FAURE and Privilege in 1967-68
| | guitar bass drums keyboards sax
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| | | | | +--------> OTIS WAYGOOD briefly in 1970
| +-----+---------+---------+
| via ABSTRACT TRUTH |
| (1970), DADDY FREEDOMS CHILDREN (1968-69) Battle Hymn of the Broken Hearted Horde
| LONGLEGS (1972, ------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - THE A-CADS, THE BATS,
| London) | | | | | | | | | also played on 'King
| JULIAN RAMSAY COLIN NIC BRIAN DENNIS STEVIE PETER PETE <----+ of the Axe-Grown Maker'
| LAXTON MacKAY PRATLEY MARTENS DAVIDSON ROBERTSON van KERKEN VEE CLIFFORD album by Colin Pratley's
| guitar bass drums keyboards vocals vocals vocals vocals guitar GRUNGANC FLERC in 1969
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| | | | | | | +------------------> married "Mutt" Lange, joined Hocus,
| | | | | | +-------ITS A SECRET (1967) later joined Night in UK with Chris Thompson
| +---------+---------+---------+ - - - - -+
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| FREEDOMS CHILDREN (1970) Astra THE GLACIERS,
| - - - - - ----------------------------------------- GRUNGANC FLERC, FRUITS OF LOOM,
| | | | | | | COLOURED RAIN
| GERARD JULIAN RAMSAY COLIN NIC BRIAN |
| NEL LAXTON MacKAY PRATLEY MARTENS DAVIDSON <---------+
| keyboards guitar bass drums keyboards vocals
| | | | | | via PIG
| +----------)---------+ +---------)---------+
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| | +---------+---------+ +------------------+
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| | FREEDOMS CHILDREN (1971) Galactic Vibes |
| | ------------------------------ | Laxton, Irwin & Pratley played on 3 tracks on
| | | | | | | Dickie Loader's "A Breath Of Fresh Air" LP (1970)
| | JULIAN BARRY COLIN BRIAN |
| | LAXTON IRWIN PRATLEY DAVIDSON |
| | guitar bass drums vocals |
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| | +-------+ +---------+--------+-------------------+----------< Trevor Rabin
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| | | FREEDOMS CHILDREN (1973) Trevor Rabin wrote 'Wake Up! State of Fear'
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| | | TREVOR RONNIE COLIN BRIAN NIC
| | | RABIN ROBOT PRATLEY DAVIDSON MARTENS
| | | guitar bass drums vocals keyboards
| | | V V | |
| | | RABBITT RABBITT | |
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+------+--)-----------------+---------+ +----------------------------+
+-------------+ | |
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HAWK (1972-73) COLLINSON McBRIAN (1975-76) |
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OTHERS DAVE JULIAN KENNY RAMSAY COLIN BRIAN |
ORNELLAS LAXTON HENSON MacKAY PRATLEY FINCH |
vocals guitar guitar bass drums guitar |
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solo, <-------+ +---------+---------+ +-------> FINCH & HENSON |
THE JULIAN LAXTON BAND | (see below) |
production, | |
jingles, KENNY HENSON'S HARAMBEE (1978) ELEPHANT (69), |
etc ----------------------------------------- ABSTRACT TRUTH (70), LANCASTER BAND (1978-1981) Cape Town Comic Strip Heroes (1981)
| | | | | HAMMAK (72) -----------------------------------------------------------
OTHERS KENNY RAMSAY COLIN GEORGE | | then | | then | | | |
HENSON MacKAY PRATLEY WOLFAARDT <--------+ BRIAN SIMON ROBIN GARTH ROBIN HARRY HOWARD
guitar bass, drums bass DAVIDSON COLTON AULD HITCHENS LANCASTER LANCASTER BUTCHER
| vocals | | vocals vocals guitar guitar guitar drums bass
| | | +--------> NEILL SOLOMON'S | | (see below)
| | | UPTOWN RHYTHM DOGS| |
| | | (1981) | +-----> Solo
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| +-----+ WILDEBEEST (1980) | RAVEN (1979) Wheel of Fortune single
| | ---------------- | --------------------------------------------
| | | | | acoustic duo | | | | | DOC, DINO & DEREK
| | COLIN DAVE | with ABNER PIET DOC DINO DEREK GABBY came from TUSK
| | PRATLEY TARR | SMITH --------> BOTHA BARENDSE SALVATORI RILEY Le ROUX
via FINCH & | | drums violin | bass guitar vocals drums keyboards
HENSON (77-82)| | | | | | | |
BORSTAL BOYS | | +--------------+ | +----------+ +--> died 21st January 1988
(1979) | | | | |
| | | | CATHERINE WHEEL (1980)
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| | | | PIET DOC KARLIEN
| | | | BOTHA BARENDSE v NIEKERK
| | | | bass guitar vocals
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| | WILDEBEEST (1981) Bushrock 1 THE COUNCIL (1983-86) released Rising on Mountain Records (1984)
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| | COLIN PIET DAVE BOET KARLIEN BRIAN KEVIN JOCK DAVE PHIL
| | PRATLEY BOTHA TARR FARBER v NIEKERK DAVIDSON SHIRLEY LAING LeWARNE SMITH
| | drums bass violin guitar vocals vocals guitar bass drums vocals,
| | | | | | | | | keyboards
| | | | | V | +------> Producing +---------> BLUES BROERS,
| | +-------)--------+ JACK HAMMER (1996) | in Australia, BACK ON TRACK
| | | | | then USA (with PAUL JARVIS)
| | | +---> JACK HAMMER |
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+-------+ +--------+---------------------------------------------+
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| RAMSAY MacKAY (1982) The Suburbs Of Ur
| ------------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
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| RAMSAY COLIN DAVE BRIAN TREVOR OTHERS
| MacKAY PRATLEY TARR DAVIDSON RABIN
| vocals, drums violin, vocals guitar
| guitars sax | |
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+-------+---------+-----------------------+ +-----> Yes (Yes, that Yes!)
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FULL TILT (1989-1993) FREEDOMS CHILDREN (1996) Mummies (unreleased)
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JIMMY RAY NIC OTHERS KENNY RAMSAY BRIAN JONATHAN BRUCE KOBUS
HAWLA DE BRUYN HENSON MacKAY DAVIDSON NEAVES MUIRHEAD van TONDER
guitar vocals, guitar, bass, vocals drums bass keyboards
| guitar keyboards vocals, |
| (see below) | guitar |
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| | +---------)---> the fumes (UK) with Henry Dennis, later The Fumes From Mars. Ramsay passed away 4 December 2018
| +--+ |
WILD GOOSE (1998-2000) | THE BRIAN DAVIDSON BAND (1998) re-recorded '1999' -
---------------------- | -------------------------------- released on 'Cape Town Vibes'
| | | | | | | | CD in 1998
JIMMY RAY BRIAN TOBY | STEVEN RUSSELL BRIAN MURRAY
HAWLA O'DONNELL TYLER | HUNTLEY de VILLIERS DAVIDSON ANDERSON
vocals, drums bass, | guitar drums vocals bass
guitar | vocals | |
| | (see below)| |
+---------+-------------)-----------+----------+
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| KING RAT (2000) Cape Town
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| JIMMY RAY BRIAN BRIAN JOHN
| HAWLA O'DONNELL DAVIDSON McWILLIAMS
| vocals, drums vocals, bass
| guitar | guitar |
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| +---------+----------)---------+
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+-----------------------)-----------+ |
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| | +--------------------+
| +------+ |
WILD GOOSE (2000) | LIVE WIRE BLUES BAND (2000) Cape Town
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JIMMY RAY BRIAN JOHN | JOHN DAVID BRIAN HARRY SIMON
HAWLA O'DONNELL McWILLIAMS | PAYNE FLETCHER DAVIDSON LANCASTER SWANICH
vocals, drums bass | guitar bass vocals drums keys,
guitar | V | guitar
| | moved to |
| | Thailand |
WILD GOOSE (2001) | to teach +-------> JAMROCK, LANCASTER BAND (reformed 2005)
------------------------ | English.
| | | | Passed away
JIMMY RAY BRIAN TOBY | 4 December 2002
HAWLA O'DONNELL TYLER |
vocals, drums bass, |
guitar vocals |
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OPEN SEASON (2002) FINCH & HENSON reunion tour 2002
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JIMMY RAY BRIAN TOBY BRENDA BRIAN KENNY JOHAN <-------from Namibia
HAWLA O'DONNELL TYLER vocals FINCH HENSON "SWARTSIE"
vocals, drums bass, vocals, guitar SWART
guitar vocals guitar | bass
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FULL TILT reunion (2003) | |
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JIMMY RAY NICKY OTHERS |
HAWLA DE BRUYN |
vocals, vocals, |
guitar guitar |
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+----> Passed away January 2005 |
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FINCH & HENSON tour June/July 2005
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BRIAN KENNY
FINCH HENSON
vocals, guitar
guitar |
| +---- > Passed away 24 May 2007
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Passed away 19 May 2019